So how exactly DO those ads know so much about you? We'll get into it in this video

 

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Davis: Hey David! Welcome back. Let’s dive right into it. How do ads track us on the internet?

David: There are so, so, so many ways this tracking happens, and each way has its own special mix of techniques and algorithms. Generally, when you visit a website or use an app that has ads in it, those ads can infer your interest, sometimes possible demographic data, and more based on the content of that page and what is known about its other visitors. A cookie or app ad identifier then correlates that visit with your visits on other websites that the same ad network has their ads in.

Davis: Gotcha. You mentioned cookies just now. We’re recording this in February 2022, and there’s a lot of news lately about how Apple and Google, especially, are looking at ditching the cookie, but that’s not coming yet. So why don’t you please share: exactly what is a cookie?

Cookies allow a website to remember your interactions with them so that it doesn’t treat every page visit as if it’s by a new visitor.

David: Yeah, so cookies have been around since the ’90s. They’re kind of a tried entry way for a website to keep track of who you are when you visit a site. And the reason for that is, say you’re shopping for books online, for example. Rather than having the website repeatedly ask you which books you want to buy every time you visit a different page in a site, it can remember it as you browse. And this is what makes online shopping carts work. For example, cookies allow a website to remember your interactions with them so that it doesn’t treat every page visit as if it’s by a new visitor.

Davis: Thanks for diving into that. What other tools are being used to track our data?

David: So, over the years ads have evolved more sophisticated ways of keeping track of who you are. Smartphone apps may leverage an advertiser ID, which is different from a cookie, which allows ads to track your usage of an app to some degree. Since cookies are designed for web browsers, you know, your Chrome, Firefox, et cetera. And apps are not websites. Advertising IDs are used by ad networks to identify people instead.

Apps have the ability to track your precise location if you allow them the permission when prompted for that.

Davis: I read a whole series of articles a year ago about how location settings literally track us around the world. Is there any truth to that? And how does that work?

David: So apps have the ability to track your precise location if you allow them the permission when prompted for that. Sometimes that’s just for when you use the app. Sometimes, always. Not all apps are going to be up front about what they do with the data they collect, including precise location. So if an app is asking for location access, it’s super important to at least skim through the app’s privacy policy to see what they’re allowed to do with the data they collect about you.

Davis: Right, so there’s a whole web happening here behind the scenes. And so that leads me to wonder who does this benefit, exactly, if it’s not the web users who is actually gaining from the system?

David: Whether it’s somebody’s best interest I think depends on the company behind the ad. Companies trying to sell fancy cookware to people who like photos of cool architecture on Instagram — which would be me — have a rough approximation of who you are based on the amount of data they’ve collected on you from visits to other sites and other app usage.

A company can make a nice profit on an overpriced skillet by only placing those ads in front of just the people most likely to buy it. Each ad a company runs costs a certain amount, so any ad that doesn’t lead to a sell is a loss. And companies want sales not losses. So targeted ads are an attractive proposition, and, you know, have been kind of the holy grail of marketing for a long time.

Targeted ads are an attractive proposition and have been kind of the holy grail of marketing for a long time.

It turns out, though, that not all companies are totally ethical — I know, it’s a shock. When ad networks become a way for companies to know way too much about their viewers, it can lead to potential for exploitative industries to pitch their products in front of more vulnerable populations. The data that ads collect about you may also end up being repackaged and sold. The companies that specialize in trying to connect the dots between, you know, online ad viewers and real world people with addresses and phone numbers and lists family names — it can get very creepy very quickly.

Davis: Yeah, for sure. It gets real dark real fast. So before I let you go, I wonder if we can find room for optimism. Are there any circumstances in which this sort of tracking is beneficial to web users?

David: Ads are generally seen as [an] annoying kind of a blight that interrupts your attention when you’re trying to look at other content. However, if you experience the web, or apps with only ads that you happen to enjoy, that’s technically, you know, in theory a win-win. I don’t mind, you know, beautifully photographed cookware ads, since I go to places like Instagram to look at that sort of thing anyway. If an ad network knows enough to know my tastes, I’m more likely to just see ads that I like, and that makes the internet technically, in theory, slightly less annoying.

Davis: Yeah, slightly, but maybe only slightly. If you do find these things annoying, there’s hope for you yet. Our next episode is going to be on preventing ads from tracking us around so tune in for that.

Ever wonder about those all-too-prescient ads that seem to follow us everywhere online? This series gets into what's behind them and what they tell us about how our data is used

 

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Davis: I just moved a couple months ago to a brand new apartment and I’m in the process of saving up for new furniture so I’ve been spending many many hours looking around at accent chairs. And I will give you three guesses as to what ads are now tracking me around the internet so I find that pretty creepy, I’m not sure about you, and I wanted to talk to one of the leading experts I know on the topic about why and how this happens. So I’d like to welcome our guest for the series, David Huerta. Hi, David. If you could say hello share a little bit about yourself and maybe what ads are attracting you these days.

David: Sure thing. I’m David Huerta. I work as a Digital Security Trainer over at Freedom Of The Press Foundation which involves teaching journalists how to protect their research and communication and keeping it safe from online surveillance. As far as ads go, I’ve recently gotten into cast iron cooking, and lately there’s been some nicer thoughtfully-designed pans that have been following me around the web. I don’t mind those so much, but I do wonder how those ads seem to know exactly what I want to buy.

Davis: So if you’re watching this video at work or at home or on your commute, take a minute to reflect: have you ever wondered why these ads are following us online and what that can mean about the data that’s available about us on the internet? And have you ever wondered what to do about that. We’re in luck because our next video will cover how and why these ads are tracking us and then we’ll get into what we can do to prevent this from happening. So stay tuned for episode two coming right up.